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karaokedeva
07-20-2007, 06:49 PM
Do you consider nascar a sport? I just want to hear different views and opinions. Thanks

majiesto
07-20-2007, 06:51 PM
I would call it a sport but it is boring as anything. I hate anything Nascar but still consider it a sport, don't know why though.

pyropat2323
07-20-2007, 06:53 PM
No... but I fight with people about what is a sport all the time. I believe a sport must have both athleticism and a game. I consider baseball and golf to be games due to lack of atheticism. I consider track and field to be athletic competitions due to lack of a game. I know a lot of people will be mad about the baseball thing but honestly, any professional sport where the players are fat, there isn't much athleticism involved.

pandora
07-20-2007, 07:01 PM
I consider it a sport. The amount of strength it takes to steer the cars and the fact that many of them lose about 5 pounds each race makes me think as far as physical strain it is a sport. Then there is also having to think ahead on when to pit, what to do on pit, etc. to be sure that you can win. But to each his own. I don't think bowling is a sport and people disagree with that.



Go Little E....

majiesto
07-20-2007, 07:03 PM
Oh, come on. Bowling is amazing! It takes skill especially if you put spin on the ball. But yea, like you said, to each his own.

garcia5
07-20-2007, 07:05 PM
I agree with Pandora. At high speeds tugging the wheel to control the car takes some pretty good amount of strength. Its just boring.

pyropat2323
07-20-2007, 07:06 PM
Bowling is a game in my opinion.

majiesto
07-20-2007, 07:07 PM
I think sports can be games as well. Just like a game, there are always winners and losers, with the occasional tie.

pyropat2323
07-20-2007, 07:10 PM
I think all sports are games, but not all games are sports such as bowling... not enough athleticism.

pandora
07-20-2007, 07:16 PM
Or chess.

What no one here likes Nascar? I am alone :(

majiesto
07-20-2007, 07:18 PM
No, I do no like watching people turning left for 500 laps.

pyropat2323
07-20-2007, 07:19 PM
No, I am not a Nascar fan. I just don't understand the appeal to watching it when I drive like that every day. ;)

pandora
07-20-2007, 07:23 PM
I love cars so it interests me. I turn the on the race on Sundays and then do housework while listening. I really watch the begining and end and listen to the race. For some reason it relaxes me.

majiesto
07-20-2007, 07:24 PM
I like when things blow up.

pyropat2323
07-20-2007, 07:25 PM
I love cars so it interests me. I turn the on the race on Sundays and then do housework while listening. I really watch the begining and end and listen to the race. For some reason it relaxes me.

It would do more than relax me... it would put me to sleep. I like cars too, though I would rather see new and expensive cars. I missed the car show this year at the GWCC. :(

The Tooth Fairy
07-20-2007, 09:48 PM
No... but I fight with people about what is a sport all the time. I believe a sport must have both athleticism and a game. I consider baseball and golf to be games due to lack of atheticism. I consider track and field to be athletic competitions due to lack of a game. I know a lot of people will be mad about the baseball thing but honestly, any professional sport where the players are fat, there isn't much athleticism involved.

I like this definition. (above)

I dont know if nascar is a sport or not, but I saw it once at a freind's house and the announcers used poor grammer. I found that to be both shocking and a turn off.

So Pyro, what are the sports?
Scoccer, Football, Basketball, Hockey
what else?

pandora
07-20-2007, 09:50 PM
Rugby, now no one can disagree about that one.

pyropat2323
07-20-2007, 09:51 PM
I like this definition. (above)

I dont know if nascar is a sport or not, but I saw it once at a freind's house and the announcers used poor grammer. I found that to be both shocking and a turn off.

So Pyro, what are the sports?
Soccer, Football, Basketball, Hockey
what else?

tennis, lacrosse,... I am sure there are more, but nothing else is coming to mind. I am glad you liked my definition. :)

EDIT: yeah rugby is definitely one... I considered playing because I have a friend who plays at GT

NfoRcErX
07-21-2007, 12:46 AM
A Sport is a game with clear defined objectives and goals with a definitive method of keeping score that isn't subjective.

Therefore, Baseball, Football, Soccer, Wrestling, Chess, Checkers, Counter-Strike, badminton, tennis, rugby, and nascar are sports

Cheerleading, Skateboarding, BMX, Snowboarding (for style, not speed), dance, and gymnastics are performance art (more for the fact that they are based on individual ideals and personal scorings and not off a set of rules that distinctly describe how points are accumulated and tallied).

karaokedeva
07-21-2007, 04:07 AM
Or chess.

What no one here likes Nascar? I am alone :(


My husband got me hooked on it. I used to find it boring...It's funny how things can sure change..

majiesto
07-21-2007, 10:29 AM
Gotta ask this: Cross Country Running, sport or not.

Of course I'm saying yes since I was a runner in high school. There is teamwork involved as it is not solely based off individual runners.

pyropat2323
07-21-2007, 11:46 AM
Gotta ask this: Cross Country Running, sport or not.

Of course I'm saying yes since I was a runner in high school. There is teamwork involved as it is not solely based off individual runners.

That is a hard one to decide because there is strategy and teamwork involved.

The Tooth Fairy
07-21-2007, 12:44 PM
Gotta ask this: Cross Country Running, sport or not.

Of course I'm saying yes since I was a runner in high school. There is teamwork involved as it is not solely based off individual runners.

I ran CC in High School, too.
heh, I only did it because I wanted a letter jacket and was too uncoordinated to do anything too complicated, esp involving a ball...

so I don't consider it a sport, mainly because most of the "strategy" seems like common sense to me... or maybe I never followed what the coaches told me... things like "pass people on a turn"

I had my own strategy which was pretty simple:
1) run as fast as I can for as long as I can.
2) pass the girl in front of me

Is there some other strategy I am unaware of that is not common sense?

pyropat2323
07-21-2007, 12:50 PM
I am not sure. Majiesto ran longer than I did, but I know the coaches seemed to have a strategy, although I don't think it did any good. There is somewhat of teamwork in terms of keeping you on pace. In the end, I think most people just worry about their own performance.

majiesto
07-21-2007, 01:01 PM
Running Cross Country is very different than just running. The training is the main factor in how well you will do. You cannot go out and just run 10 miles and expect to do well. You have to account for many factors. Granted running long distances helps but it also requires speed work and some hills as well. Learing how to pace yourself also helps. I would say that running as fast as you can for as long as you can is not a good strategy. Cross Country is over a longer distance than a track meet.

Another point is running together as a team. I don't know why but our team would always do better when we ran together in a race. Having your teammates there with you boosts your performance. I just think that it is a lot more than running fast.

The Tooth Fairy
07-21-2007, 01:05 PM
I am not sure. Majiesto ran longer than I did, but I know the coaches seemed to have a strategy, although I don't think it did any good. There is somewhat of teamwork in terms of keeping you on pace. In the end, I think most people just worry about their own performance.

yeah,
I think anyone who is actually a runner can keep themselves on pase.
You can tell (most days) how fast you are going just from experience...

wolfgang38
07-21-2007, 08:24 PM
I love cars so it interests me. I turn the on the race on Sundays and then do housework while listening. I really watch the begining and end and listen to the race. For some reason it relaxes me.

I like the races, but they are better in person. Mostly its like a big party. Can't wait to go in October...

colacoke
07-21-2007, 10:14 PM
Nascar
Where else can you go and see grown men PROUDLY walking around in jackets that say "Viagra" across the back?

SFjoey
07-22-2007, 03:09 AM
My LORD, if its COMPETITION it is a sport. gog



sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
2. a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously.
5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.
6. an object of derision; laughingstock.
7. something treated lightly or tossed about like a plaything.
8. something or someone subject to the whims or vicissitudes of fate, circumstances, etc.
9. a sportsman.
10. Informal. a person who behaves in a sportsmanlike, fair, or admirable manner; an accommodating person: He was a sport and took his defeat well.
11. Informal. a person who is interested in sports as an occasion for gambling; gambler.
12. Informal. a flashy person; one who wears showy clothes, affects smart manners, pursues pleasurable pastimes, or the like; a bon vivant.
13. Biology. an organism or part that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent type; mutation.
14. Obsolete. amorous dalliance.
–adjective 15. of, pertaining to, or used in sports or a particular sport.
16. suitable for outdoor or informal wear: sport clothes.
–verb (used without object) 17. to amuse oneself with some pleasant pastime or recreation.
18. to play, frolic, or gambol, as a child or an animal.
19. to engage in some open-air or athletic pastime or sport.
20. to trifle or treat lightly: to sport with another's emotions.
21. to mock, scoff, or tease: to sport at suburban life.
22. Botany. to mutate.
–verb (used with object) 23. to pass (time) in amusement or sport.
24. to spend or squander lightly or recklessly (often fol. by away).
25. Informal. to wear, display, carry, etc., esp. with ostentation; show off: to sport a new mink coat.
26. Archaic. to amuse (esp. oneself).
—Idiom27. sport one's oak. oak (def. 5).

The Tooth Fairy
07-22-2007, 09:51 AM
My LORD, if its COMPETITION it is a sport. gog



sport /spɔrt, spoʊrt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[spawrt, spohrt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
2. a particular form of this, esp. in the out of doors.
3. diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
4. jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously.
5. mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.
6. an object of derision; laughingstock.
7. something treated lightly or tossed about like a plaything.
8. something or someone subject to the whims or vicissitudes of fate, circumstances, etc.
9. a sportsman.
10. Informal. a person who behaves in a sportsmanlike, fair, or admirable manner; an accommodating person: He was a sport and took his defeat well.
11. Informal. a person who is interested in sports as an occasion for gambling; gambler.
12. Informal. a flashy person; one who wears showy clothes, affects smart manners, pursues pleasurable pastimes, or the like; a bon vivant.
13. Biology. an organism or part that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent type; mutation.
14. Obsolete. amorous dalliance.
–adjective 15. of, pertaining to, or used in sports or a particular sport.
16. suitable for outdoor or informal wear: sport clothes.
–verb (used without object) 17. to amuse oneself with some pleasant pastime or recreation.
18. to play, frolic, or gambol, as a child or an animal.
19. to engage in some open-air or athletic pastime or sport.
20. to trifle or treat lightly: to sport with another's emotions.
21. to mock, scoff, or tease: to sport at suburban life.
22. Botany. to mutate.
–verb (used with object) 23. to pass (time) in amusement or sport.
24. to spend or squander lightly or recklessly (often fol. by away).
25. Informal. to wear, display, carry, etc., esp. with ostentation; show off: to sport a new mink coat.
26. Archaic. to amuse (esp. oneself).
—Idiom27. sport one's oak. oak (def. 5).

thanks for the true definition, joey, but the question was: Do we consider it to be a sport. not Is it a sport. So in this case, the english language definition is different than the "sports elitist" definition...

karaokedeva
07-22-2007, 02:40 PM
Nascar
Where else can you go and see grown men PROUDLY walking around in jackets that say "Viagra" across the back?


I can't stop laughing after reading this..

karaokedeva
07-22-2007, 02:42 PM
I like the races, but they are better in person. Mostly its like a big party. Can't wait to go in October...

I like going to the races but the traffic is aweful i remember one time we got stuck in Daytona traffic for 2 hours...It was so worth it though...

Tomcat
07-22-2007, 02:42 PM
Oh, finally, a thread about NASCAR. A while ago I started a thread "Are you a NASCAR fan?" and nobody posted so I gave up.

I am a NASCAR fan and I think NASCAR is sports. It is sad that many consider NASCAR as redneck sports. The more I watch them (especially live), the more I am addicted. I don't watch Indy, and F1 is much boring.

There are rules, teamworks and rivalry. Thanks to the job and connections, I have been able to be in the garage area. I met some drivers and pit crews - some are nice but others arrogant and snobbish just like any professional athletes.

I think once you have a favorite driver, you will watch NASCAR differently. I like Carl Edwards, Kasey Kahne, Jeremy Mayfield and many other drivers, as long as they don't belong to Hendrick Motor Sports or Busch brothers. :) Just like many fans, I like Jr. I want to support him even after he movied to HMS.

Pandora, do you have a favorite driver or team?

IMO, professional wrestling like WWE is not sports. It is just another form of entertainment.

Heatherhot
07-22-2007, 11:49 PM
Or chess.

What no one here likes Nascar? I am alone :(

I started liking it when I realized there was a cute driver like Dale Earnhardt Jr. He is such a cutie. And yes, I do consider it a sport myself. It's over 100 degrees in that car.

"Today's NASCAR driver has to be in peak shape to last through a race.

Two of the biggest problems facing a race car driver are the heat and the constant G forces from turning corners. The temperature inside a typical NASCAR cockpit is around 120 degrees on a hot summer day. It feels even hotter because the driver is wearing a fireproof suit from head to toe.

In a corner, a NASCAR driver experiences 2 to 3 Gs. A 200-pound driver feels like he weighs 600 pounds in a 3-G turn. Holding your head, arms and torso in position for hours at a time when you weigh 600 pounds takes strength - so NASCAR drivers spend time training in the weight room. Drivers work especially on muscles in the neck, shoulders, arms and torso so that they have the strength to work against the Gs. Drivers also work a great deal on stamina, because they have to be able to perform throughout a race that lasts three to four hours without rest."
http://express.howstuffworks.com/200mph-tech1.htm

The Tooth Fairy
08-05-2007, 01:47 PM
For all of you Nascar Fans:
TODAY IS MY JEFF GORDON BIRTHDAY!
:rocks:
I drew a picture on my art blog for it!

http://kickingassandtakingteeth.blogspot.com/

(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

pandora
08-05-2007, 01:49 PM
Jr. is poll today! :D He is my favorite driver. I'm so glad he is switching teams.

pandora
08-05-2007, 05:32 PM
This race is killing me, no one cares; but still.

wolfgang38
08-05-2007, 05:53 PM
This race is killing me, no one cares; but still.


You will be ok....

da turkey
08-05-2007, 05:56 PM
There are not many sports where you can get pieces of rubber on your face just by watching it, unless you count dodgeball.

pandora
08-05-2007, 06:21 PM
Well my boy didn't win; but 2nd isn't bad.

wolfgang38
08-05-2007, 06:27 PM
Well my boy didn't win; but 2nd isn't bad.

well its better than he has been doing lately....

pandora
08-05-2007, 06:29 PM
But he isn't in the chase right now.

wolfgang38
08-05-2007, 06:30 PM
But he isn't in the chase right now.

but he is getting closer isnt he

pandora
08-05-2007, 06:32 PM
but he is getting closer isnt he

No he was 12th before this race and now he is 13th.

wolfgang38
08-05-2007, 06:32 PM
No he was 12th before this race and now he is 13th.


that sucks....

Tomcat
08-05-2007, 06:49 PM
I hate Busch bros!! Tony Stewart can be cranky, moody and rude but I like him because he is not afraid to tell how he feels about NASCAR executives and other drives.

Anyway, if NASCAR is not a sport, I want to ask if poker tournaments or spelling bee contests are a sport? I hate when not only ESPN but also the travel channel shows poker tournaments.

wolfgang38
08-05-2007, 07:03 PM
I hate Busch bros!! Tony Stewart can be cranky, moody and rude but I like him because he is not afraid to tell how he feels about NASCAR executives and other drives.

Anyway, if NASCAR is not a sport, I want to ask if poker tournaments or spelling bee contests are a sport? I hate when not only ESPN but also the travel channel shows poker tournaments.

Nascar is a sport poker is as well but a spelling is a contest...

lisi28
08-05-2007, 10:32 PM
Hmmm... I don't really follow it, but I'm sure lots of people would consider it a sport.

Heatherhot
08-05-2007, 11:39 PM
Nascar is a sport poker is as well but a spelling is a contest...
hey wolfgang, why do u think poker is a sport? there's no physcial activity. just curious. obviously people consider it a sport b/c they show it on ESPN and all, but I just don't get it. I thought you could explain it to me. :p

DemonicBunny
08-05-2007, 11:40 PM
Hell yes it's a sport, next question!

Heatherhot
08-05-2007, 11:42 PM
but, the game doesn't require athleticism.

Tomcat
08-05-2007, 11:50 PM
I also have a touble accepting Porker as a sport. I just wish the Travel Channel does not broadcast poker tournaments. ESPN shows spelling bee contests, but spelling bee contests are not sports (IMO), so broadcasted by ESPN, poker does not automatically qualify as a sport.

Heatherhot
08-06-2007, 12:57 AM
I also have a touble accepting Porker as a sport. I just wish the Travel Channel does not broadcast poker tournaments. ESPN shows spelling bee contests, but spelling bee contests are not sports (IMO), so broadcasted by ESPN, poker does not automatically qualify as a sport.
I agree with you Tomcat. a spelling bee is not a sport. I don't undertand why they are even on TV.

redbomber0
08-06-2007, 02:32 AM
nascar yes sport.
each of those cars are a testament to aerodynamics and engineering as we know them today.